I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. **Notes about feet:** Left foot pretty much bang on 9D, right foot maybe 9.25D. Former Affiliate Vendor Threads; a Locked Forum. Their online interface is very easy to use, and being able to make these selection is so much better than being constrained to the ready-made options a manufacturer has selected. Never felt loose. This is particularly true in the shoe market, given there are few designer brands spending big budgets on marketing and advertising. Were not aiming to cover the whole market here, by a long way the focus is on cheaper shoes that we would never normally cover on Permanent Style, really below 300. Although classed as subs, most of the time you would be hard pushed to see why. Joseph Cheaney are undoubtedly the thinking flaneurs cordonnier. Meermin shoes are also very comfortable due to the relaxed feel of their Double Insoles System but they are not as comfortable as the Carmina shoes. It is a smidge shorter than 2030, but that's due to the lack of taper. Rock Your Socks- show your sock, shoe & pant combos, *DROP 3/1* NWT $240 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Navy Linen & Mulberry Silk Twill Neck Tie, * DROP 3/1 * NWT $225 Ralph Lauren Purple Label Italian Made Square Knit Solid Black Silk Neck Tie, R.M.Williams Comfort Craftsman Tobacco Suede UK 8.5 H. OGIO Golf Travel Bags The Royal Experience! I do know and enjoy your blog, lots of useful information! Still would have preferred 9.5E if it were offered. My next purchase would probably be one from G&Gs classic collection, but I can hardly justify buying another shoe when I have 2 brand new pairs (another Meermin and Trickers) which remain unworn due to quarantine. As someone who has handled or owned several of these brands I thought it would be helpful to offer my experience, anecdotal though it may be. Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. However, it shows. Truman P-79 9D: Nice fit. No real complaints, but I haven't tried them in quite a while. The fit/finish/materials of my $600 Alden boots is markedly different from my $350 Allen Edmonds Dalton boots. Its why Ive avoided buying from them. Here the belittling is by Jesper, but somehow feels like follow-through of the same swing. I havent covered Allen Edmonds in the past both because I havent had much experience of them, and because they were below the quality level we normally cover on PS hence their inclusion in this article, which was intended to round-up lots of cheaper makers. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. All Enzos were tried as oxfords and have comfortable insteps with no gap, * **Fugashin Saigon unknown wholecut last** 8UK comfortable, good instep for oxford, * **Gaziano Girling DG70** 8.5EUK comfortable. Down by half. Dedicated to informing, teaching, and sharing. See and interact with all Instagram stories @PermanentStyleLondon. Im surprised not to see JFitzpatrick in the Spain list. Also worth noting, is that Ive never written about this on Shoegazing, it just came up in the discussion with Simon when we talked about differences. heel and instep grips without the toe being too restrictive, * **Edward Green 82** 8.5UK pretty good forefoot with too much heel slip. I can see a grey being useful, but that's about all probably. The Hand-Welting construction of these shoes makes them be very good dress shoes that can fit into any wardrobe quite easily. Allen Edmonds 65 9D: Excellent fit. Alden Barrie (lined shell): 10D, a little snug at the big toe but great in the ball and very supportive overall. Side-note: >90% of the sneakers I've worn over the years have been 10D, mostly Vans growing up and later Asics. Nice to hear your journey Joshua. Yanko 915 3 eyelet derby 9.5UK: Probably more form fitting and snug than tlb or carmina (probably due to sizing down) but near perfect in shape. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. The close-channel stitching is also a plus, you know youre getting more handwork for the soles. Alden Van (unlined shell): 10D, ended up selling before fully breaking in. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. CNES and Fugashin are both high quality shoes and I carefully compared them before deciding that Fugashin was the better and choosing it as my Shoemaker. Meermin Burgundy Oxford Shoe || Men's US 8 UK 7 E. $50.00 + $32.48 shipping. Fully bespoke shoes including trial pair start from about 550 depending on the exchange rate, and they offer ready to wear / MTO lines of various grades between 65 and 450. I could not ask for a better fitting oxford. Is it enough to justify the extra 75 quid per pair? On an industry level, theres also more variation among the Spanish brands, not least because a lot of them are younger, changing, and trying to fit into an increasingly competitive market. Are there other difference? !!! second chance thread), Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. The Yanko felt very similar to the TLB if a bit softer overall (this makes sense as the founder of TLB used to be with Yanko). Where would you fit in Carlos Santos? Great stitch density and overall construction for a GYW loafer that normally runs 160 euros. When I was measured at Alden Madison and an AE store, both actually said I should lean toward 10D TTS, due to my flat feet and low instep, which led to many bad purchases. Sendra has its own brand as well as making for others, which is a little more expensive than Berwick or Meermin. I definitely enjoy the articles with the highest quality makes but its nice to have a change of pace as well, especially if its going to help me make a decision on something Im likely to buy. Also, as this pair is the kind of a pair of is, this hasn't been in the easiest environments. Thanks. The shoes have a slim bevelled waist (stitched all the way to the heel), a close-cut heel and a leather heel stiffener. Some RTW still offer width varieties but I believe the manufacturers found that those with narrow feet didnt suffer if the shoes were too wide. Its just the next level up. My favorite last for standing long periods. Its a solid fit. Way too narrow all around, last too tapered for my taste. Carmina Forest Oxford and Blucher - 9.5 UK. I have this problem as well. Alden Barrie: I can be comfortable in Bluchers in 8.5E. Loake 024 last (F-Fit): 7UK a bit tight around toes and heel. I agree they provide an excellent service and are great ambassadors for the brand, which is why I think it is clever of them as a company not to be involved in the complexity of rents, leases, employees etc. Allen Edmonds still made really good shoes twenty years ago, but their attempt at becoming an all around clothing brand with its own shops really harmed the quality of the shoes. Moderate arch. Leo 9E/9.5D: Bad fit. I really only wear white, which is why we launched with this. Jack & White Bros Round Last 9: Probably the best fit now. On the other hand, Meermins wont last you as long as Carminas will. I still recall trying them for the first time after having worn Carmina for some years and noticed the difference instantly. Honest , relevant and informative. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Carmina Men's Wing Tip Oxford. I had the hope it would get softer and stretch a bit. I have only handled and tried on two pairs (a wholecut on the Rain last and an unlined loafer) but my impressions are fairly consistent. I run in minimal shoes, lift in minimal shoes or barefoot, and hike a lot in zero-drop trail runners. What type of heel stiffener do they use? The last is generally nicer, finer finishing elements are nicer, fewer corners are cut in certain areas, etc. I could wear these with my really thick winter socks if I wanted to. Grant Stone Oliver 9D: Great fit. They are slightly cheaper than the C&J handgrade line, though I am not sure what drives the difference. I have wide feet (I wear 8EEE on the 65 last in Allen Edmonds) so almost none of the regular lasts fit me, except for Forest 7.5EEE. These classy are built for the ultimate style, comfort, functionality, and elegance of the elite. As a simple example, in the UK the price of Consul, a black calf, toe-cap Oxford will increase from the current price of 495 to 720. Significantly roomier fit than the 65 last so, even though they don't fit my foot shape well, they're reasonably comfortable. Same thing is true at a luxury level. You pay less for a Spanish shoe, and still less for a Vietnamese one. It is tough to find quality hand-welted shoes for the price that Meermin shoes are being sold for. Finally, its worth noting that they have a very robust MTO program where customers can customize lasts and detailing, and they also use a lot of crust calf, where other makers on this list (besides possibly the Asian ones) only use aniline. Here in the States, the mark-up on most of these brands, when one can get them, tends to be breathtaking. Its actually something well touch on in our upcoming piece looking at budgets and capsule wardrobes. 9US is too generous, * **Red Wing 8 last (iron ranger)** 8.5D a bit snug on the sides of the mid foot, might've gotten away with 8.5E, * **Rider Boot 42 last** 9D comfortable fit, but lowish instep at the top makes it hard to put them on without shoehorn, * **RM Williams Comfort Craftsman** 8G with a little heel slip, * **TLB Mallorca Alan** 8F UK generous without being overly roomy. Id put them at around Barker/Loake territory, perhaps slightly better. if I like a pair of suede Edward Greens chelseas and Meermin (or Allen Edmond or Loake) chelseas the same out of the box, would I enjoy the EG uppers longer because theyre of a higher grade suede? Brands like Cheaney, Churchs, Trickers and Grenson dont feature here? Rancourt 800 9D: Great fit. No stretch sir. Little bit of heel wiggle room. Wide midfoot, but a touch low instep which translates to average volume, just squashed a bit down. Would you stick to brands such as Alden, EG, (or else) for RTW ? Now use your measurement and select the size based on your foot's length (see size chart below). Thats generally why so many people, or at least readers, like shoes from these other brands. First thing I noticed is that they write the shoe runs large and one should buy half a size smaller than usual. Thanks for the personal comment it is very helpful and interesting, Any thoughts about the German brand Hammerstein? Hence, vanity wins (maybe). I have given up after several wears as the blisters arent worth it. From a comfort perspective these are unrivaled for the price, similar to how I have heard Baudoin & Lange described. Allen Edmonds 65: 10.5D - Okay fit. It was snug, but not tight, and I could tell that they would fit perfectly once the sole settles. In particular, if you're interested in this price bracket, check out his buyer's guide here. Lots of toe room and good heel feeling. E.g. JavaScript is disabled. No more Stows for me. I ultimately gave up on mine. ), but perhaps that wouldnt be entirely appropriate. I made the same experience with Bobbies shoes which ended in an oddyssey of sending shoes back and forth. Seeing an article like this is refreshing, its nice to see PS being more inclusive by discussing products which are more budget friendly. I own several of the shoes mentioned in this article (Meermin, Allen Edmonds, Loake 1880, Carmina) and if theres one thing I learned, it is that: you cant buy Gold for the price of Copper. Are morjas using leather or plastic heel stiffeners? (Vibergs cxl is different to Thursday boots cxl.). MASSIVE. Please take a look. Im really looking forward to the promised article on TLB Artista. 2030 last 9.5: Acceptable fit with tongue pad and thin socks. In durability? Cross posting in case any regular readers of this thread can help. Alden Aberdeen: 9.5E fits me really well with medium socks. With Carmina you can get a more refined shoe - closed-channel stitching, a more bevelled waist and so on. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) Try Saphir Shoe-Eze, it actually works. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Above all of these. Thursday Dress last 9.5D: Quite narrow, I wear thinner socks with these. Can add that you can find a review of Carlos Santos here on Shoegazing: https://shoegazing.com/2015/09/06/review-carlos-santos-7201-braga-cognac/. Take for instance Santoni, Prada or S. Ferragamo. Crockett & Jones, Churchs, John Lobb, Joseph Cheaney etc. I wonder brands you may recommend for a person with a deeper broader foot like mine. They look nice to me, but as I have only been buying shoes from British shoemakers, I am unsure whether their last may look showy or unusual comparison. So if there is a middle man, its often the brand. My Yanko boots I enjoy in the winter months here in New Zealand (about now). Its a helpful round up, especially since I find this price bracket to be a sweet spot for my own purposes. Their prices and quality is a good balance. Really? While I have no problem wearing RTW tailoring that is cheap relative to the bespoke stuff you discuss on the website, with shoes I found it impossible to go back to cheaper brands once I got my first EGs. Allen Edmonds Sizing to Carmina & Meermin Those that have Allen Edmonds and carmina or meermins, what size do you wear in AE compared to the others? And do you know any retailer in continental Europe who sells Anthony Cleverley? Yes literally hard as rock but very nice looking in their box.. Agree Alan, buyer beware that they are extremely hard to break in. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. Viberg 2030D 9: The 9D is probably the best fit I have from Viberg, or tied with the 2040. With TLB, you could choose a more versatile dark-brown calf, or perhaps brown suede but with leather soles. Yes, you certainly do notice the differences, and they are both of the quality type (unlike a shirt) and the making type (more like hand sewing). Loake Bullet last (F-fit): 7Uk fits but a bit tight around toes. The former you appreciate in the shoes over time. Buying a pair of Meermins is not a decision that you are going to regret, trust me. Loake1880 is good starting point and it used to be a very good value. You may learn more here. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. I think I could also safely do this last in in 9.5, but I'm not trying to wear my boots as tight as possible. Fast worldwide deliveries; 14 day returns; . Just got re-measured last week after losing some weight (again), Im standing in between 10.5 C/D. A bit surprised that you had the experience with Berluti, they have a pretty good reputation. * **Alden Aberdeen** 9D loosened up a bit with wear, * **Alden Van** 8.5D comfortable in shell, * **Antonio Meccariello Aeris Soft Square** 8.5UK excellent fit, * **Antonio Meccariello Chisel II** 8.5UK bit loose all round, I suspect half a size down would have fit better but a become a bit tight at the pinky toe, * **Berwick1707 240** 42EU quite snug all round, perfect for a summer loafer, * **Carlos Santos 1944/r1s** 8UK fantastic loafer fit, * **Carlos Santos 401/s** 8UK forefoot a bit roomy, * **Carmina Pina** 8UK too much heel slip for a loafer, * **Carmina Simpson** 8.5UK instep too low, * **Clematis Ginza unknown oxford last** 8UK (made by Joe Works, also too low an instep), * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 41EU Fits but toe box feels too low, * **Common Projects Achilles Low** 42EU Great fit, * **Crockett & Jones 314** 8EUK snug all round, not much toe room, * **Edward Green 184** 8.5UK fantastic loafer fit. second chance thread), https://www.instagram.com/sartorially_inclined/, https://www.carminashoemaker.com/wholecut-boots-black-boxcalf-80518, Carmina Green Shell Cordovan Frankenstitch Captoe Jumper Boot 10.5eee(uk) detroit last, RM Williams Comfort Craftsman or Carmina (Rain Last) Chelsea, *SOLD* Carmina Bourbon Shell Cordovan NST boot 8UK Forest last, Alden Color 4 Shell Cordovan Chukkas - Barrie last size 10 D, Alden x Leffot Saddle Shoe - Unglazed Cigar Shell Cordovan and Snuff Suede - 8D Barrie Last. They initially repaired free of charge and when the heels came loose again they replaced for a shoe from their 1880 range. Ive a pair of Barker Grant that I must have worn 50/60/70 times and its only last week I had a topy (SVIG rubber) put on, the cobbler reckoned the rubber on the heel hadnt worn enough to warrant replacement. Theyre the only pair from this collection that I got out of the box and went wow. Also I feel the toe space is a bit too narrow. Please support us by using them. An apron toe penny loafer from Orbans last summer that were on clearance for 60 euros. As been mentioned by Simon, dont see it as a complete list of brands, its just a selection of ones to highlight, theres plenty of good brands not mentioned (and plenty of less good ones as well). These boots make me want to convert my entire boot collection to White's. Although the vast majority of my formal clothes over the last 40+ years have been bespoke, I have never seen or felt the need to go bespoke on shoes. Their sole is often thinner compared to the English brands (eg CJ etc), which works fine during the warmer summer months. Pinky toe pinches a touch, * **Meermin Bob** 8UK a hint loose at the heel, but snug at the forefoot, * **Meermin Elton** 8UK very snug to start, much more comfy now, * **Meermin Olfe** 8.5UK could've probably gone down to 8UK but is still pretty comfortable, surprisingly not too slippy. These shoes are classily elegant shoes that elevate the fashion style of the shoe wearer. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. The brand focuses on doing the basics well and I recommend it to every friend of mine that wants to try goodyear welted shoes for the first time. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. and the results for the money where quite good.at a distance, you could mistake them for Berluti, at 1/4 the price. It's been a while, but I didn't have any complaints after break in. Simon: I understand that there are certain differences between more expensive shoes and less expensive shoes. Does anyone know if English makers tend to have wider heels than their Spanish (or other continental counterparts). No issues on 5+ hour rides. But the key issue from my point of view is that AE offers 10 widths across all the models in their portfolio, where none of the Northamptoners are able to offer more than 2 and only for very few of their models. I have loafers on their Xim and they're too big for my by a hair. I found a pair on sale for about $100 more than those, however, so I figured I'd give them a try. I'll try to be fairly comprehensive Red Wing Moc Toe: 10D, narrow in ball of foot. I would also include Lof & Tung on this list its Skoaktiebolagets house brand (though I havent seen any in person), and their customer service is excellent too. When you see and feel the quality that you are getting with these shoes, Im sure that you will feel pleased with your expenses. And they are one of the very few brands offering something for the ladies. I'd still stick with your usual 2030 size. Viberg 2005EE 9: (there is a D version available from MTO only) I have these in an old 2013 Sample service boot and the engineer which is what its normally found on. I agree that they might be a touch conservative (although they do now have more stylised lasts compared to a few years back), and that youre less likely to get more interesting leathers like museum calf or patinated. As Carmina did when it first became popular, and as TLB Artista (below) is perhaps doing now. There is one new Brand Lethato seen on different portals and I saw their boots are attractive and reasonably priced. The two lasts I mentioned are super comfortable straight out of the box, and I can wear them all day without the slightest discomfort. if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[580,400],'footslide_com-medrectangle-3','ezslot_13',107,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-medrectangle-3-0');Let us see what Carmina shoes and Meermin shoes look like at first glance: One of the most elegant shoes out there today is the Carmina shoes. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. Interesting times and personal style journey. You found 1 size in that last worked for you though? $215 shipped to the US. Those two are quite similar, in that they both have pretty large marketing budgets, run their own retail, and have ridden the wave of classic menswear in the past few years. Very comfortable, heel is a smidge roomy, but overall an extremely comfortable last. Personally, I like their lasts quite a bit. Crocketts and Carmina are in there largely for context, as mentioned. I just read on an Spanish forum that Meermin and Carmina used to buy together batches of leather from the same place. As for Northampton shoes they are still great value if you buy in the sale or go to the factory shops. Its particularly difficult with Oxfords, a Meermin Linea Maestra in a narrow width is the only pair I have that Id say fits spot on, all others are uncomfortable if I need to walk for a decent distance. Jespers site is shoegazing.com. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. There is a great day out to be had (or was) visiting the factory shops of the main makers in and around Northampton. Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. American brands seem to be better at this (Alden, AE). Even though mine are lace-ups, breaking in has actually been very easy and I also feel like they are totally worth the money. France doesnt have the shoemaking tradition of the UK, Spain or Italy, and its brands like Loding or Orbans are all made in Spain and Portugal. * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. Simon wrote that it is expensive to add an extra width across all shoes. Im afraid Im not great on recommending sizing issues like that. Alexander 9E/9.5D: Excellent fit when worn sockless. Take a ruler and measure between the base of the paper to the marked line. But it fits pretty good and I'd happily buy another pair of 1035. However to their credit, Loakes customer service was excellent. Hoping to get myself a pair soon. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. 55 last 9.5E: Excellent fit with thick or thin socks, this is what boot heaven feels like! As someone who generally purchases shoes in this price point and has experiences with Carmina, Loake, Allen Edmonds, Berwick and Meermin.. This is more than just the upper, but depending on the build, the leather insole will mold and compress to the foot. Wolverine 1000 mile 9D: Gusseted tongue made the break in a little hard at first, overall a bit narrow and snug in the waist, but a very comfortable fit when broken in. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. High volume last with somewhat narrow toe box. For example, I got two new boots from the UK this week: a shell Carmina balmoral at just over $500 USD and C&J Galway 2 at just under $390 USD. Based on reviews, Im hopeful. Theyre perhaps most similar to Skolyx, in being a very simple make but with good materials. Its a long time since Ive worn shoes at that price level, and I simply have no frame of reference. Also it seems that Carmina outlet in Granada used to sell Meermin shoes a few years back. Would be an excellent fit with a wider toe box and lower instep. I'll update this list as I get new stuff in too. Thanks for taking the time to reply. In addition to the Artista line you allude to, they also have a great customization program. 240 Last 9.5: Bad fit. Japan: Scotch Grain, Otsuka, Miyagi Kogyo, Oriental. Very snug toe box, foot extends past footbed on sides; too much vertical space even with tongue pad, resulting in lots of heel slip and overlapping facings. A lot of new brands have been popping up in recent years, too, especially in Asia, and they often feature impressive specs for the price. Barefoot, thick socks, whatever. The quality of the leather isnt as good as Crockett and Jones, but is far superior to my Barker and Loake shoes. Im not sure who and why the person you talked with from Barker said anything else, but a quick visit to their website or just a Google will you show you that he or her were wrong. I've come to think of myself as a 10E. This was several years ago, so my recollection isnt as detailed. Please use this thread to list your sizing in various lasts compared to your Brannock size. Second is a Loake 1880 snuff suede apron derby boot. 3. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. Also, the chunky sole and derby construction arent that suited to suits. Cheaper shoes will often have small mistakes, such as little splits in the sole or heel stack. There is no question that the 2 pairs of EGs I have are simply fantastic and of higher quality that CJ and Carmina. Rancourt 115 9D: Great fit. From my personal experience, there has been a decline in quality in inverse proportion to price increases. Have been on a Brannock only once. With Carmina you can get a more refined shoe - closed-channel stitching, a more bevelled waist and so on. Meermin shoes are cool and stylish as well, but, they are however not as stylish and cool as the Carmina shoes that are distributed in this present moment. Not a big difference though. Ive since moved on to other brands because I wanted higher quality. I have found myself not liking the current 2021+ year make of the 2030 in 8.5 The changes have kind of fudged the instep for me right at the tongue seam. Nick horween has spoken at length about this, so shell cordovan chromexcel etc are technically corrected grain. Many thanks Simon as usual for the very informative article. Styleforum is supported in part by commission earning affiliate links sitewide. That point has been removed until it can be proved either way. I have experienced Cheaney a fair bit, my first two pairs of English shoes were from Cheaney main line (I still have one of them), plus I have worn Cheaneys imperial range as well as C&J mainline shoes. And of course I could be wrong, but still believe theres something behind it. Sizing as 10E and filling in vertical space as needed seems to offer the best fit, without any of the above problems. Even for me and I have narrower feet than the average man. And with the double-insoles system in place, comfort is guaranteed with Meermins. This means that in our Goodyear welted shoes you are likely to go down 0,5 size compared to what you wear in Meermin Hiro. Red Wing Iron Rangers (Last 8): 10D, forefoot stretched to be very comfortable. A reader even referenced it in a comment above on this post. But they are still good value for money. The subreddit about quality footwear. Definitely wish Viberg made more boots on this last. These shoes are well-appraised by people worldwide for their comfort, style, and proper appearance. The comment is only in reference to leather. Everything from the finishing, to the thick upper, to the last shape seemed cheap and unattractive. Viberg 2030: 10 - Good fit. As you mentioned, the C&J sole is flat and not very detailed, but the leather is thick but very supple and significantly more comfortable than any other shoe I have over the course of the day. Some heel slip until broken in. Extraordinary. 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